Join Karen Bartlett of the Now & Center podcast, as she talks to Jenn Uhen, Founder of The Pledgettes, about building wealth without being extractive, avoiding an either/or lens around money, and what is enough.  They discuss toxic messages for women in business, nonprofit or for-profit status, and communities as a business model.  They have a coaching conversation centered around prioritizing time with all the shoulds in business, being with not knowing, and how to foster creativity and innovation.  Jenn calls out the fallacy of the “self-made man,” and calls in that she is a “community-made woman.”